Online Finance Review: Yodlee vs. Wesabe
Ok, so I’ve been using Yodlee’s Moneycenter for a long time now and I love it. It keeps track of literally everything from credit cards to banks to my time warner account to my frequent flyer miles, if I have an account it tracks it automatically. I’ve seen a bunch of posts over the past few months extolling a new web2.0 site called Wesabe. Not thinking of my personal finance in particular as a theme for social networking I was intrigued and decided to check it out.
So, to set the stage let’s say that Yodlee and Wesabe, while concerned broadly about the same topic have very different scopes. Yodlee tries to cover everything for you, a place where you can monitor a ton of your own financial information. Wesabe focuses only on your bank and credit card accounts, but adds in a community aspect and some web2.0 style organizational structure.
Wesabe allows you to tag all your line items (expenses, deposits, etc..) with arbitrary tags, so you can easily view groups of transactions. Within any tag you can set up spending targets and it will show you how close or far to that goal you are for the month at any given point. And you can set up goals which, more or less, seem to be groups of tags. As you tag things, you can make the tag apply to all transactions from the same place or else you can set it to be a one time tag - that’s quite useful since many expenses will be the same all the time.
The social aspect is sprinkled throughout. Next to many transactions is a link to tips on saving money that are relevant to that vendor. So, if you bought some stuff at Trader Joe’s (a grocery store) you’ll see a list of tips (sometimes things like “don’t grocery shop hungry” other times things like “good deal on olives here.”). The tips are suggested by other members of the community and there’s a potential discussion around each one. The tips are easy to check out and you can add your own tips. There are also discussion groups, a huge variety of them. All manner of things like more savings tips to wesabe information to entrepreneurship.
Unfortunately Wesabe isn’t that big on telling you how to do stuff. I couldn’t find any documentation anywhere, so trying to figure out what a Goal did was trying. The relationship between tags and goals was strange to me initially, and definitely not intuitive. Now that I pieced it together, it does make sense, but a simple guide that explained it wouldn’t have hurt. There’s some strange nav problems where sometimes you leave your account if you try to hard to look for help and have to hit back to get back into it.
Yodlee on the other hand does not try to be anything social at all. It doesn’t provide any tips or anything else but access to your account information. One hang up many people have with Yodlee is the fact that you have to provide them with all the login information to any online accounts you want it to track - this is a lot of trust to put into one institution. Wesabe gets around that by giving you a desktop application that you use to store that information which then pulls your account data and sends it to wesabe, so your names and passwords are never in Wesabe’s posession. This is a killer feature for the company.
But what they lose with that is the ability to pull data from a huge variety of sources. Yodlee can pull data from all over the place and are constantly adding in new account possibilities. Another thing that I love about Yodlee is that it pulls bills for you - so you know when a new bill is online, how much it is for and when it is due. They offer a BillPay service that you can set up so that you can even pay your bills from the website - but I don’t personally do that. For me that is huge - to be able to go to one place and see when everything needs to be paid has saved my skin many a time. Yodlee also automatically updates their information daily and you can update all of the or particular accounts at will as well. It will send you email alerts when transactions are more than a threshold you specify or if credit cards approach a limit you specify, useful as warnings as well as a potential fraud detector.
Yodlee also keeps your history around forever and shows you a nice chart for each account or account group that shows it’s ebbs and flows monthly over time. It can show you at a glance transactions from all your accounts at once or else just a single account, it allows you to categorize your transactions as well as define rules for automatically categorizing them. Many of the come categorized based on the vendor type, so if the vendor is registered as a restaurant, it automatically puts that in food expenses.
Yodlee’s business, actually, is maintaining their moneycenter software for other banking clients - so places like Citibank and HSBC offer their clients access to private moneycenter applications. However, Yodlee also maintains their own version publically so they can make changes and modifications to it without having to go through their clients.
Both sites are free services but have very different focuses. If you are a bad spender and need well defined goals and community support to help you, Wesabe is a great solution. But if you’re just looking for a place that will keep track of all your accounts, banking, investment, frequent flyer, bills (like phone, utilities and cable) Yodlee is a one stop shop. Functionally it offers so much more than Wesabe does and as a history of expenses it is awesome. You can export your data to excel friendly downloads.
I think Wesabe is an interesting start and I hope it grows to become much more featureful than it currently is. As it stands I don’t find anything particularly compelling about it. For financial wisdom, I can frequent FatWallet.com and learn about all the ways to be frugal there. For me Yodlee is nearly perfect - if you don’t mind giving up your passwords, I’d definitely recommend you check them out.
UPDATE: Also check out my review of mint.com as it compares with yodlee and wesabe.








May 3rd, 2007 at 12:22 pm
I used to be a Yodlee user when they first started up ages ago. Sometime between when I stopped using them and now I guess they killed my account (at least I hope they did) cause I can no longer log on. Not that I really need it anymore. Quicken pretty much handles all my financial stuff anyway.
May 3rd, 2007 at 2:13 pm
Yeah, I started using quicken, but I had some problems and then I switched computers and had some more problems… so gave up. Yodlee I think is close enough (for my needs) to quicken and it keeps track of a couple things quicken doesn’t, so I just stick with it. :)
May 3rd, 2007 at 2:26 pm
Hey,
I’m Marc Hedlund, one of the co-founders of Wesabe. Thanks much for the write-up — you make a lot of great points and obviously spent a lot of time thinking through the plusses and minuses of the two sites.
You’re absolutely right that Wesabe pulls in data in a way that, we believe, provides you with a much higher level of security and privacy, but that isn’t as smooth as it could be yet. We’re just finishing up a new release that will make this much easier and more complete than any other site — we’ll be able to pull in data automatically from far more financial institutions than anyone else.
That said, we do believe that privacy and security are extremely important, and that our method provides more on both fronts than anyone else. We do not store your account numbers, bank usernames, bank passwords, or other information on our site that is extremely sensitive and identifiable. We also let you export (in Excel, XML, and other formats) or delete your data from our site at any time.
You’re also right that we have limited account types (for now, checking, savings, credit card, credit line, and money market accounts) available on the site. We started out with the basic accounts where we felt we could provide the best value, and we’re expanding from there.
A lot of the features you mention are ones we have in development right now. For the people looking for help with cash management, what we have today is a great start — but for people such as yourself who have more kinds of accounts, we’re not that there yet.
You’re also right that we need to do a lot more to document the site. We have a great group of users in our “Make Wesabe Better” group, and they do well at helping each other work out what they need from the site, but right now, the best documentation we provide is the set of YouTube videos available on our site.
Some of these things will come with more time (we just launched in November, so the site is still very new), and some are coming very quickly. You have a system that works for you now, but as we add more of the features you’re requested — and we try to be extremely responsive to user’s requests — I hope you’ll give us another try and see if we’re living up to these promises. We announce all of our new features on our blog, blog.wesabe.com.
Thanks again for such a careful review. If you have any other suggestions for ways we could improve Wesabe for you, please drop me a line at marc at wesabe.com.
Best,
Marc Hedlund, Wesabe
May 3rd, 2007 at 3:29 pm
Thanks for stopping by! It’s definitely smart to focus the launch on what differentiates you from the rest - and the social aspect definitely sets you apart from anything else I’ve seen. I’ll definitely be keeping an eye on changes, I’d love to see Wesabe be the one that aggregates tons of information without having me have to give my login information out. The desktop component is the bomb. :)
May 3rd, 2007 at 9:37 pm
Thanks, Felix, we worked really hard on that. If you like that, you might like the new model even more….
Best,
Marc
May 4th, 2007 at 8:38 am
Marc,
Hey, don’t know if you’ll venture back here, but I was actually thinking about this last night. Have you seen Clipperz.com? I reviewed it here, but basically it’s a pretty sweet online password management system, that I think does a pretty great job of balancing security with usability.
Now, I may be going out on a limb here, a long, precarious limb here, but I think this would be awesome. There’s a few functionalities that are floating around between clipperz, yodlee and wesabe. Account management which clipperz does great, yodlee does ok at and wesabe does pretty minimally. There’s the financial data aspect which yodlee does great, wesabe does ok and clipperz not at all and there’s the social/wisdom of the crowds aspect which Wesabe does great and the other two not at all.
I feel like there’s some meeting point in there combining the best of clipperz security and yodlee’s data management into one central Wesabe location. :) I thik all that financial data is ultimately great for wesabe - bills and customer award programs are perfect for social network discussions and tips.
Ah well.. just my thoughts meandering and ending up on some kinda crazy thing that sounds compelling to me on paper. :)
May 4th, 2007 at 12:50 pm
That’s cool, I’ll take a look and see. There are a few sites that do something similar — I think billeo.com is another one that’s interesting.
If you’re interested, drop me a line at marc at wesabe dot com, and I can get you signed up to test the new tool I mentioned above — there’s some overlap to the ideas you’re mentioning here.
Thanks for the pointer — this definitely looks interesting to me.
May 4th, 2007 at 3:03 pm
Email sent!
May 9th, 2007 at 3:23 pm
We recently interviewed and interviewed Wesabe. I think its a cool tool since I am always screaming to myself “salary cap issues!” You can read it at: http://www.odinjobs.com/blogs/page/thatsinteresting?entry=wesabe_knows_where_your_money
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