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By: Ben

Ben — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 22:03:41 +0000

I think it’s most likely the first possibility. Jobs is just being his typical control freak. Besides he keeps saying the iPhone is the best iPod to date. They haven’t opened the iPod to anyone, so why would they the iPhone?

Anyway this whole AJAX/Web2.0 thing is still just crap. It’s like turning your phone into a thin client. It doesn’t work for personal computers, I don’t think it’ll work for cell phones either. All this “oh but now you have tons of more potential developers cause everyone’s getting on the AJAX/Web2.0 gravy train” is just bupkis. Look at all those Yahoo/Apple/MS widgets and even FF extensions out there. Tons of ‘em, most of ‘em crap, only a small amount actually useful. To have to deal with download lag and network issues just to run an app? Are you kidding me? Yeah yeah, Google Gears could help but I’ll believe it when I see it.

That being said, I’ll still try to get one. ;-p

And what is this G2 you speak of?

By: howie

howie — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:55:39 +0000

One of the big issues might be the deal with AT&T. If the SDK is readily available how long will be before some p2p and streaming video apps come out for the iphone. AT&T’s network probably isnt ready for half the iphones out there to be maxing out their bandwidth 24/7. many data plans provide “unlimited” service.

By: felix

felix — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:01:57 +0000

Hey, Heath! You bring up good points - it’s possible that the maps app will be more or less the same as it would be online. But it’s possible that the app gives it tighter integration with the internal apps (like contact) than might otherwise be feasible. I know that the google maps app on my Treo is infinitely more better than the web version on my phone - but that may just be because Blazer doesn’t do so well at the javascript.
It is also true that there’s some tricks apple could do to make web apps more “app like” - the icon bookmarks is a good one (I mentioned that in another post :). And if gears comes around that could help too.
But like I said, it doesn’t change the essential fact that web apps (at least at this point and for the foreseeable future) aren’t replacing local ones - they are supplementing them. There are some things web apps a really good at and other one’s that they aren’t.
AJAX in Safari is great - but it should just be a byproduct, not the main dish. You know? Anymore than Apple saying, no more SDK for MacOS because Safari runs AJAX apps.
And don’t get me wrong, I’m still excited about the iPhone, but still hoping to hold out for G2. :)

By: Heath Snow

Heath Snow — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:21:57 +0000

iThink that the google maps *app* icon is no better than a bookmark in safari pointing to an iPhone friendly google maps AJAX.

iThink that if Apple allows bookmarks to be saved on the iPhone as an icon similiar to a native app then this would appease a lot of developers.

iThink that if Google Gears takes off and works well with the iPhone that this would appease even more developers.

iThink the potential is there and that is what has so many people excited.

iThink I’ll buy one on June 29th.

Best regards,

Heath