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	<title>Comments on: More thoughts on Safari and OSX</title>
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		<title>By: I&#8217;m not a Safari switcher &#124; #comments</title>
		<link>http://comments.deasil.com/2007/06/16/more-thoughts-on-safari-and-osx/#comment-2072</link>
		<dc:creator>I&#8217;m not a Safari switcher &#124; #comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] any significant period of time in the last year or so, but with Safari 3 all out and buzzing and Robb saying it was a better user experience I figured I&#8217;d give it another shot. DL&#8217;d the new version and ran it as [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] any significant period of time in the last year or so, but with Safari 3 all out and buzzing and Robb saying it was a better user experience I figured I&#8217;d give it another shot. DL&#8217;d the new version and ran it as [...]</p>
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		<title>By: felix</title>
		<link>http://comments.deasil.com/2007/06/16/more-thoughts-on-safari-and-osx/#comment-1989</link>
		<dc:creator>felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 12:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did you, I think I don't notice a lot of the OSX'ness because I'm simply used to firefox. So in ways that it differs from Firefox I get annoyed - which probably isn't fair, but hey, that's life. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did you, I think I don&#8217;t notice a lot of the OSX&#8217;ness because I&#8217;m simply used to firefox. So in ways that it differs from Firefox I get annoyed - which probably isn&#8217;t fair, but hey, that&#8217;s life. :)</p>
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		<title>By: robb</title>
		<link>http://comments.deasil.com/2007/06/16/more-thoughts-on-safari-and-osx/#comment-1988</link>
		<dc:creator>robb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see what you mean.  As a dev platform Safari is not very good.  Problem is that to me at least as a consumer platform Firefox is pretty awful.  It looks like crap, it has nonstandard window behavior, the download manager is odd and it has poor integration with the OS and it is, ugh, Carbon.  Firefox looks really nice on Windows, though, which puzzles me.

Anyway.  As a consumer of web product I prefer Safari, save the del.icio.us plugin on Firefox, which tips the balance, but leaves me dissatisfied.  Safari works like an OSX app, which is important to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see what you mean.  As a dev platform Safari is not very good.  Problem is that to me at least as a consumer platform Firefox is pretty awful.  It looks like crap, it has nonstandard window behavior, the download manager is odd and it has poor integration with the OS and it is, ugh, Carbon.  Firefox looks really nice on Windows, though, which puzzles me.</p>
<p>Anyway.  As a consumer of web product I prefer Safari, save the del.icio.us plugin on Firefox, which tips the balance, but leaves me dissatisfied.  Safari works like an OSX app, which is important to me.</p>
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		<title>By: felix</title>
		<link>http://comments.deasil.com/2007/06/16/more-thoughts-on-safari-and-osx/#comment-1984</link>
		<dc:creator>felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 01:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, it's my blog and I'll hate whatever I want to! I dunno, I used WebKit for awhile a few months back and couldn't take it, I don't remember specifically what I disliked about it, though. I do really, really, really hate the reload/stop button - I'm constantly bookmarking pages I mean to stop loading. 

It also doesn't have WebDeveloper and Tamper Data and the javascript console amongst other things that are not the fault of the browser specifically, but still make it impossible for me to switch. If they're looking to make it a first class app development platform with their small market share, they're going to need extensions like that in a hurry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, it&#8217;s my blog and I&#8217;ll hate whatever I want to! I dunno, I used WebKit for awhile a few months back and couldn&#8217;t take it, I don&#8217;t remember specifically what I disliked about it, though. I do really, really, really hate the reload/stop button - I&#8217;m constantly bookmarking pages I mean to stop loading. </p>
<p>It also doesn&#8217;t have WebDeveloper and Tamper Data and the javascript console amongst other things that are not the fault of the browser specifically, but still make it impossible for me to switch. If they&#8217;re looking to make it a first class app development platform with their small market share, they&#8217;re going to need extensions like that in a hurry.</p>
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		<title>By: Robb</title>
		<link>http://comments.deasil.com/2007/06/16/more-thoughts-on-safari-and-osx/#comment-1982</link>
		<dc:creator>Robb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 00:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, don't hate on safari...  I actually think it is a brilliant browser.  If the goodness that is the del.icio.us plugin existed for it I'd switch back.

it is cocoa, it has real object handling, it has better font/type rendering, it doesn't eat memory like firefox, it has actual applescript integration and it is standards based.  the latest webkit builds have edit mode and pass all the standards tests to boot.  also, it uses real osx widgets and chrome. 

I think that it is wrong to assume that people only use it out of ignorence....  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, don&#8217;t hate on safari&#8230;  I actually think it is a brilliant browser.  If the goodness that is the del.icio.us plugin existed for it I&#8217;d switch back.</p>
<p>it is cocoa, it has real object handling, it has better font/type rendering, it doesn&#8217;t eat memory like firefox, it has actual applescript integration and it is standards based.  the latest webkit builds have edit mode and pass all the standards tests to boot.  also, it uses real osx widgets and chrome. </p>
<p>I think that it is wrong to assume that people only use it out of ignorence&#8230;.  </p>
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