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		<title>By: Ed Colligan replies to Engadget &#124; #comments</title>
		<link>http://comments.deasil.com/2007/08/23/poor-palm/#comment-3702</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Colligan replies to Engadget &#124; #comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] doing something they need to be telling their users something, anything to keep them believing (Ben Combee is trying, but it&#8217;s an uphill battle for one engineer to tackle with zero support from the company). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] doing something they need to be telling their users something, anything to keep them believing (Ben Combee is trying, but it&#8217;s an uphill battle for one engineer to tackle with zero support from the company). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Profoleo &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ben Combee explains Foleo/Treo problems</title>
		<link>http://comments.deasil.com/2007/08/23/poor-palm/#comment-3690</link>
		<dc:creator>Profoleo &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ben Combee explains Foleo/Treo problems</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 06:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Combee is a Palm software engineer and is quite active on the Internet. Combee recently responded to the criticism that Palm should have figured out Treo compatiblity problems by now. &#34;We&#8217;re not stupid; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Combee is a Palm software engineer and is quite active on the Internet. Combee recently responded to the criticism that Palm should have figured out Treo compatiblity problems by now. &quot;We&rsquo;re not stupid; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: felix</title>
		<link>http://comments.deasil.com/2007/08/23/poor-palm/#comment-3685</link>
		<dc:creator>felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 02:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes indeed! Palm has a bit of a corporate communication problem. At least we've got this back end communication going on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes indeed! Palm has a bit of a corporate communication problem. At least we&#8217;ve got this back end communication going on!</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Garrett</title>
		<link>http://comments.deasil.com/2007/08/23/poor-palm/#comment-3678</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 00:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh... Thank God for Ben! I wish Palm would directly release this info... A situation like this is unfortunate, but is understandable. I can't wait for the Foleo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh&#8230; Thank God for Ben! I wish Palm would directly release this info&#8230; A situation like this is unfortunate, but is understandable. I can&#8217;t wait for the Foleo!</p>
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		<title>By: On Palm&#8217;s PR problem &#124; #comments</title>
		<link>http://comments.deasil.com/2007/08/23/poor-palm/#comment-3669</link>
		<dc:creator>On Palm&#8217;s PR problem &#124; #comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] seen anything vaguely resembly PR come from any Palm source except for what I&#8217;ve seen Ben Combee doing. Which is exactly (amongst other things) what Palm needs to be promoting. They need to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] seen anything vaguely resembly PR come from any Palm source except for what I&#8217;ve seen Ben Combee doing. Which is exactly (amongst other things) what Palm needs to be promoting. They need to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Combee</title>
		<link>http://comments.deasil.com/2007/08/23/poor-palm/#comment-3659</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Combee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to make clear that that wasn't an actual 100% accurate description of a specific problem we've found -- it's more of a composite of a whole range of bugs that we've been finding and addressing over the last six months.

And yes, life has been VERY hectic. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to make clear that that wasn&#8217;t an actual 100% accurate description of a specific problem we&#8217;ve found &#8212; it&#8217;s more of a composite of a whole range of bugs that we&#8217;ve been finding and addressing over the last six months.</p>
<p>And yes, life has been VERY hectic. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk Unit</title>
		<link>http://comments.deasil.com/2007/08/23/poor-palm/#comment-3652</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk Unit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo. I had a ton to say about Ben's comment, so I moved it over to my blog, which needs to wake up from its Summer break anyway. 

&lt;a href="http://www.kirkunit.com/2007/08/you-cant-cheat-.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;You Can't Cheat an Honest Palm Engineer&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo. I had a ton to say about Ben&#8217;s comment, so I moved it over to my blog, which needs to wake up from its Summer break anyway. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.kirkunit.com/2007/08/you-cant-cheat-.html" rel="nofollow">You Can&#8217;t Cheat an Honest Palm Engineer</a></p>
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		<title>By: felix</title>
		<link>http://comments.deasil.com/2007/08/23/poor-palm/#comment-3650</link>
		<dc:creator>felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, ahh, thanks! I was just off thinking more about this issue and was going to send you an email - it just felt like something was off about the situation - didn't make sense that something so major was wrong. I'm sorry to hear about the problems - life must be a little hectic over there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, ahh, thanks! I was just off thinking more about this issue and was going to send you an email - it just felt like something was off about the situation - didn&#8217;t make sense that something so major was wrong. I&#8217;m sorry to hear about the problems - life must be a little hectic over there!</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Combee</title>
		<link>http://comments.deasil.com/2007/08/23/poor-palm/#comment-3649</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Combee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't talk much about when we're launching yet, but I can say that the comments in Barron's are a major simplification of what's been happening this summer.  We're not stupid; we've been working on lots of complicated sync issues on lots of phones for the last year, including testing with a wide range of Treo devices.  The issues haven't been "it doesn't sync", but more like "after syncing large numbers of emails over a four day time period, the operation fails 25% of the time and cannot restart without resetting the device."  We've been doing lots of stress testing, and sometimes that finds problems that have been hidden for a while or problems that are really hard to debug because of the need to setup a reproducible case with instrumentation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t talk much about when we&#8217;re launching yet, but I can say that the comments in Barron&#8217;s are a major simplification of what&#8217;s been happening this summer.  We&#8217;re not stupid; we&#8217;ve been working on lots of complicated sync issues on lots of phones for the last year, including testing with a wide range of Treo devices.  The issues haven&#8217;t been &#8220;it doesn&#8217;t sync&#8221;, but more like &#8220;after syncing large numbers of emails over a four day time period, the operation fails 25% of the time and cannot restart without resetting the device.&#8221;  We&#8217;ve been doing lots of stress testing, and sometimes that finds problems that have been hidden for a while or problems that are really hard to debug because of the need to setup a reproducible case with instrumentation.</p>
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