Comments on: Microsoft wants ads on “your” desktop http://comments.deasil.com/2007/09/14/microsoft-desktop-ads-privacy/ escape colon w q Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:35:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: brandon james ross http://comments.deasil.com/2007/09/14/microsoft-desktop-ads-privacy/#comment-12138 brandon james ross Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:16:11 +0000 http://comments.deasil.com/2007/09/14/microsoft-desktop-ads-privacy/#comment-12138 i liek teh idea its kinda cool lyke if im looking at pr0n they might give meh a link to get better pr0n. its 1337! it pwns! i liek teh idea its kinda cool lyke if im looking at pr0n they might give meh a link to get better pr0n. its 1337! it pwns!

]]> By: Ads: Google v. Everyone http://comments.deasil.com/2007/09/14/microsoft-desktop-ads-privacy/#comment-6447 Ads: Google v. Everyone Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:27:20 +0000 http://comments.deasil.com/2007/09/14/microsoft-desktop-ads-privacy/#comment-6447 [...] Microsoft isn’t throwing the towel, but they’re already making excuses. They’re now saying (and I paraphrase)… “Yeah, yeah, yeah, search has been really profitable, whoop-de-doo, but that’s totally yesterday’s news. Coming up it’s going to be rich media ads!” Which confuses me, I mean, how is that still not search driven? That is, it’s just as easy to serve a text ad as a rich media ad to a search result. And Microsoft still won’t be eating at that table unless they do something better than Tafiti. Oh wait they are, they want to put their grubby little ads all over your desktop. [...] [...] Microsoft isn’t throwing the towel, but they’re already making excuses. They’re now saying (and I paraphrase)… “Yeah, yeah, yeah, search has been really profitable, whoop-de-doo, but that’s totally yesterday’s news. Coming up it’s going to be rich media ads!” Which confuses me, I mean, how is that still not search driven? That is, it’s just as easy to serve a text ad as a rich media ad to a search result. And Microsoft still won’t be eating at that table unless they do something better than Tafiti. Oh wait they are, they want to put their grubby little ads all over your desktop. [...]

]]> By: felix http://comments.deasil.com/2007/09/14/microsoft-desktop-ads-privacy/#comment-5157 felix Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:03:56 +0000 http://comments.deasil.com/2007/09/14/microsoft-desktop-ads-privacy/#comment-5157 Michael, I agree with you that it isn't wrong as long as everything is disclosed up front. But there's two things I worry about - one, as this becomes a reality, it pushes the envelope on acceptable and expected privacy in the wrong direction. And I fear that if Microsoft feels at liberty to do this stealth upgrade to you (benign as it may be) when you actually own everything how much more will it feel free to do when you're just a renter? So, it's more a "political" fear I have with the move. Max, huh, that's interesting. I've always had real good luck working with macs, mostly everything just works. Same for my wife - although I admit, I always have a 3rd party multi-button mouse on my computer and when I go to my wife's I kind of don't know how to do stuff. I think part of it is familiarity - it's easier to use what you know, but I'd recommend grabbing a 3 (or more) button mouse and using that on a mac, it'll be much more comfortable. :) Michael, I agree with you that it isn’t wrong as long as everything is disclosed up front. But there’s two things I worry about - one, as this becomes a reality, it pushes the envelope on acceptable and expected privacy in the wrong direction. And I fear that if Microsoft feels at liberty to do this stealth upgrade to you (benign as it may be) when you actually own everything how much more will it feel free to do when you’re just a renter? So, it’s more a “political” fear I have with the move.

Max, huh, that’s interesting. I’ve always had real good luck working with macs, mostly everything just works. Same for my wife - although I admit, I always have a 3rd party multi-button mouse on my computer and when I go to my wife’s I kind of don’t know how to do stuff. I think part of it is familiarity - it’s easier to use what you know, but I’d recommend grabbing a 3 (or more) button mouse and using that on a mac, it’ll be much more comfortable. :)

]]> By: Max Hubris http://comments.deasil.com/2007/09/14/microsoft-desktop-ads-privacy/#comment-5150 Max Hubris Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:42:35 +0000 http://comments.deasil.com/2007/09/14/microsoft-desktop-ads-privacy/#comment-5150 I'm a long time PC guy. My girlfriend uses Macs exclusively, and I have to say that when I'm at her place and have to resort to using her computer, I'm miserable. I just can't find my way around that OS. I can't figure out where the files are--and there's no f88king right click drop down menus. Drives me nuts. Plus, I had a helluva time setting up her wireless router and printer. I thought Macs were supposed to be just "plug it in and go". I don't think so. Her printer will just mysteriously stop working and I have to reinstall it all the time. Of course, if Windows keeps getting more and more intrusive, I'll switch to a Mac or Linux. I’m a long time PC guy. My girlfriend uses Macs exclusively, and I have to say that when I’m at her place and have to resort to using her computer, I’m miserable. I just can’t find my way around that OS. I can’t figure out where the files are–and there’s no f88king right click drop down menus. Drives me nuts. Plus, I had a helluva time setting up her wireless router and printer. I thought Macs were supposed to be just “plug it in and go”. I don’t think so. Her printer will just mysteriously stop working and I have to reinstall it all the time.

Of course, if Windows keeps getting more and more intrusive, I’ll switch to a Mac or Linux.

]]> By: Michael Natale http://comments.deasil.com/2007/09/14/microsoft-desktop-ads-privacy/#comment-5109 Michael Natale Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:49:12 +0000 http://comments.deasil.com/2007/09/14/microsoft-desktop-ads-privacy/#comment-5109 I use Macs at home, but have to support Winblows to make my living. Having said that, I think as long as whatever is done is disclosed up front and the user is given a choice to participate or not, then that works for me. I have heard that in the future The Borg might move to the subscription based model for their OS and offer a "free" (read: ad supported) version. Is it a bad idea? Undoubtedly. But, as long as its clear to the end user what they are giving up in terms of privacy then its up to them to do the right thing and tell The Borg to go fuck themselves, stick a crowbar in their wallet and pay for the OS (or whatever The Borg attempts to lure people in with). I use Macs at home, but have to support Winblows to make my living. Having said that, I think as long as whatever is done is disclosed up front and the user is given a choice to participate or not, then that works for me.

I have heard that in the future The Borg might move to the subscription based model for their OS and offer a “free” (read: ad supported) version.

Is it a bad idea? Undoubtedly. But, as long as its clear to the end user what they are giving up in terms of privacy then its up to them to do the right thing and tell The Borg to go fuck themselves, stick a crowbar in their wallet and pay for the OS (or whatever The Borg attempts to lure people in with).

]]> By: felix http://comments.deasil.com/2007/09/14/microsoft-desktop-ads-privacy/#comment-5094 felix Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:25:03 +0000 http://comments.deasil.com/2007/09/14/microsoft-desktop-ads-privacy/#comment-5094 Mmm.. MacOS. Yes. I've only ever had to work fulltime on a windows box for about 6 months, I didn't mind it too much while I was there, but realized how not good it was after I switched off. Mostly I've been a linux user, but some years back my linux box died and I switched to an old Mac I had in the interim... never quite made it back. Everything kind of just works with MacOS. :) Thank god there's no paperclip! Mmm.. MacOS. Yes. I’ve only ever had to work fulltime on a windows box for about 6 months, I didn’t mind it too much while I was there, but realized how not good it was after I switched off. Mostly I’ve been a linux user, but some years back my linux box died and I switched to an old Mac I had in the interim… never quite made it back. Everything kind of just works with MacOS. :)

Thank god there’s no paperclip!

]]> By: Sebastian Lewis http://comments.deasil.com/2007/09/14/microsoft-desktop-ads-privacy/#comment-5081 Sebastian Lewis Fri, 14 Sep 2007 15:16:58 +0000 http://comments.deasil.com/2007/09/14/microsoft-desktop-ads-privacy/#comment-5081 Well that's real nice of them. Sometimes I get asked why I use a Mac and Mac OS X, my most used response is "It stays the fuck out of my way" meaning no dialog boxes, pop ups, paper clips, etc. interrupting me. Obviously Microsoft doesn't think they interrupt people enough, XP was bad, Vista is worse, and 7 is apparently not going to change that. Sebastian Well that’s real nice of them. Sometimes I get asked why I use a Mac and Mac OS X, my most used response is “It stays the fuck out of my way” meaning no dialog boxes, pop ups, paper clips, etc. interrupting me. Obviously Microsoft doesn’t think they interrupt people enough, XP was bad, Vista is worse, and 7 is apparently not going to change that.

Sebastian

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