Comments on: My App Engine failings http://comments.deasil.com/2008/06/01/my-app-engine-failings/ escape colon w q Tue, 07 Feb 2012 04:30:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Top 8 Posts of June! http://comments.deasil.com/2008/06/01/my-app-engine-failings/comment-page-1/#comment-11203 Top 8 Posts of June! Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:43:03 +0000 http://comments.deasil.com/?p=1638#comment-11203 [...] 2) My App Engine failings [...] [...] 2) My App Engine failings [...]

]]> By: Hao http://comments.deasil.com/2008/06/01/my-app-engine-failings/comment-page-1/#comment-15125 Hao Wed, 04 Jun 2008 03:47:56 +0000 http://comments.deasil.com/?p=1638#comment-15125 Maybe you could try talking to Benjamin Golub of fftogo. I know he used App Engine + memcached. Maybe you could try talking to Benjamin Golub of fftogo. I know he used App Engine + memcached.

]]> By: felix http://comments.deasil.com/2008/06/01/my-app-engine-failings/comment-page-1/#comment-15126 felix Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:48:45 +0000 http://comments.deasil.com/?p=1638#comment-15126 Thanks, yeah, I've figured out in my head how to break up my definitely very long load process into a bunch of smaller loads to AE. I have a worry that the display side may continue to be too heavy, but I guess I won't know till I try!<br><br>I wouldn't mind a ghetto server. :) It could be optionally used and taxed at a higher CPU cost. I don't know, I just think that there are some tasks that websites need to do that are intrinsically heavy. I'm sure it'll get worked out. Thanks, yeah, I've figured out in my head how to break up my definitely very long load process into a bunch of smaller loads to AE. I have a worry that the display side may continue to be too heavy, but I guess I won't know till I try!

I wouldn't mind a ghetto server. :) It could be optionally used and taxed at a higher CPU cost. I don't know, I just think that there are some tasks that websites need to do that are intrinsically heavy. I'm sure it'll get worked out.

]]> By: wtanaka http://comments.deasil.com/2008/06/01/my-app-engine-failings/comment-page-1/#comment-15127 wtanaka Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:59:18 +0000 http://comments.deasil.com/?p=1638#comment-15127 I ran into DeadlineExceededError and came here looking for insight. In my case, contrary to yours, it looks to be some transient problem.<br><br>One reason long tasks are bad is that they hurt the latency of short tasks. You want something like a "long task ghetto server" which only runs long running tasks, but the problem here is that there's no perfect way to predict the CPU time a task is going to take ahead of time.<br><br>It seems like it should usually, if not always, be possible to split up long running tasks into either background tasks (run via cron for now -- I imagine Google will add an Idle/Background task API at some point) or tasks run with javascript. I ran into DeadlineExceededError and came here looking for insight. In my case, contrary to yours, it looks to be some transient problem.

One reason long tasks are bad is that they hurt the latency of short tasks. You want something like a “long task ghetto server” which only runs long running tasks, but the problem here is that there's no perfect way to predict the CPU time a task is going to take ahead of time.

It seems like it should usually, if not always, be possible to split up long running tasks into either background tasks (run via cron for now — I imagine Google will add an Idle/Background task API at some point) or tasks run with javascript.

]]> By: A few more Python thoughts from a Perl guy http://comments.deasil.com/2008/06/01/my-app-engine-failings/comment-page-1/#comment-10946 A few more Python thoughts from a Perl guy Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:37:53 +0000 http://comments.deasil.com/?p=1638#comment-10946 [...] I’ve really had a go at it. I guess I have Google and App Engine to thank for that (although App Engine itself isn’t without it’s frustrations for me! Again, I suspect a mindset change is required).  ↑  Breakfast Links: Save [...] [...] I’ve really had a go at it. I guess I have Google and App Engine to thank for that (although App Engine itself isn’t without it’s frustrations for me! Again, I suspect a mindset change is required).  ↑  Breakfast Links: Save [...]

]]> By: FriendZone, see who’s in your Friendfeed circle http://comments.deasil.com/2008/06/01/my-app-engine-failings/comment-page-1/#comment-10936 FriendZone, see who’s in your Friendfeed circle Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:52:42 +0000 http://comments.deasil.com/?p=1638#comment-10936 [...] It needs some polishing and will get it, but I figure release early and release often, right? Anyway, go see who’s in your FriendZone and post some charts to FriendFeed. I’m very curious to see how similar people’s charts are. Oh and come back here and let me know if you notice any problems or have any suggestions. (Also, if you happen to read this blog, this was the second app I worked on yesterday morn that caused me all the App Engine agitation). [...] [...] It needs some polishing and will get it, but I figure release early and release often, right? Anyway, go see who’s in your FriendZone and post some charts to FriendFeed. I’m very curious to see how similar people’s charts are. Oh and come back here and let me know if you notice any problems or have any suggestions. (Also, if you happen to read this blog, this was the second app I worked on yesterday morn that caused me all the App Engine agitation). [...]

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